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One of the things I don't get about people like John McCain's new buddy John Hagee, (besides the anti-Catholic bigotry, the anti-Muslim bigotry, and blaming Hurricane Katrina on "God's wrath") has to do with their whole obsession with prophecy and the end of the world. Specifically, their "support" of Israel. Which is to say they want the state of Israel to exist, and all the Jews to go there, because that will bring about an invasion by Russia and the Arab states which will be destroyed by God and signal the beginning of the end of the world (no, really).

Besides the obvious contradictions of "supporting" a country to hope it's destroyed, what that means for their conception of God is confusing. (And not just because if they're right, their God is a petty, nasty, insecure little jerk) They want to "support" Israel to bring the end of the world quicker. So they want to force God's hand. Isn't God supposed to be all-powerful (and all-knowing, which would seemingly make their plotting pointless), so why would God HAVE to do something just because these people met certain conditions? Wouldn't all-powerful include the power not to do something? Or for God to decide "Nah, I don't wanna do it that way after all." Why would an all-powerful God need a megachurch pastor to help bring about the end of the world, anyway?

And y'know, maybe I just read too many comics and played too many RPGs, but the easiest shorthand I know to tell the good guys from the bad are the good guys are the ones trying to prevent the end of the world.

Date: 2008-03-08 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amazingadrian.livejournal.com
I agree, and I have to admit, this is why I dislike right-wing Christians. The more you look at them the more contradictory they seem, and the more it appears they are ignoring some of the key aspects of Jesus' teachings. Tolerance, for example.

Date: 2008-03-08 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forsythferret.livejournal.com
Part of the problem is the crazies tend to be the most vocal, and get the most attention. But on the other hand, the guy runs one of the biggest megachurches in the country. There's actually been some interesting comparison about the theology over in one of the Left Behind threads on slacktivist.

Date: 2008-03-08 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leticia.livejournal.com
The slacktivist once compared them to Buffy Villains.

Date: 2008-03-08 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forsythferret.livejournal.com
I remember that post. And it's relatively apt, from the little Buffy I've seen. I had a vague line I was thinking of while writing this post, about how their God sounds a lot more like Cthulhu, and they're trying to summon It. (Though I think in the Cthulhu books, it's not really so much a matter of "summoning" Cthulhu, it's drawing Its attention, which usually gets the "summoners" dead right quick. Funny how that has Cthulhu having more free will than these people want to give God credit for)

Date: 2008-03-08 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwalla.livejournal.com
maybe I just read too many comics and played too many RPGs, but the easiest shorthand I know to tell the good guys from the bad are the good guys are the ones trying to prevent the end of the world.


Well, of course. Comics promote homosexuality and RPGs promote worship of Satan, so clearly you are now doing the Devil's work.

Date: 2008-03-18 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forsythferret.livejournal.com
That's the only logical explanation.

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