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Okay, so. Riddle me this, Batman. Recycled paper used a lot less raw materials, energy, water, and pretty much every other resource that goes into paper making.

So why are notebooks from recycled paper usually more expensive than notebooks made from new paper? Is it just the companies figure the only people who are going to care are middle class or better and willing to pay a "conscience tax" or something? Instead of just making plain old bog standard notebooks that happen to be made from less stuff, so they're cheaper to make?

Date: 2006-09-01 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadwing.livejournal.com
Actually that is a misnomer. Recycled Paper is quite a bit weaker than paper made from fresh pulp so when the paper is made the machines cannot go as fast, if they go at full speed the paper rips, and even if it comes though the paper making process intact it cannot be printed on at full speed it will tear itself into pieces so more time = more money = higher cost.

It's why you rarely see notebook or newsprint made from 100% recycled paper, you usually see a blend of fibers 15-20% recycled/reclaimed the rest virgin pulp these blends still cannot be run through the presses at full speed but they can run much faster than 100% recycled paper can. 100% Recycled papers are much thicker than your standard notebook sheets, to make up for the lost strength.

So the only thing Recycled Paper saves in the end it trees.

Date: 2006-09-01 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forsythferret.livejournal.com
Really? Why's it weaker, if you know? Just general wear and breakage on the fibers?

Date: 2006-09-01 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadwing.livejournal.com
Pretty much yeah, the more times you process the pulp the shorter the pulp fibers get, shorter the fibers the weaker the paper and more prone it is to ripping and tearing.

Its why you see money made from fabric fibers which are much longer and stonger than standard tree pulp.

Date: 2006-09-01 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forsythferret.livejournal.com
I thought money was made from a mix with linen, which was practically cloth.

Date: 2006-09-01 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadwing.livejournal.com
Cotton actually, I think they use scraps from jeans as a pulp base, linen might be part of the mix but its not the largest componant. Linen Fiber is used for some paper but it does break down faster than cotton does.

And I know WAY to much about Fibers LOL

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