These tea partiers who are speaking out about "fiscal responsibility for future generations"? Where were they, say, when George W. Bush created a giant tax cut for his rich buddies and took the government's balance sheet back into the red? Or when he spent billions invading Afghanistan and let Osama Bin Laden get away, then decided to spend many more billions invading Iraq for WMDs that were never there? Where was their pickets and concern for "fiscal responsibility" then?
If they're concerned about the Constitution, where were they during the Bush administration's "Free Speech Zones", the Drug War's illegal searches and seizures, the Bush administration's kidnapping, torture, lies, and holding people for years without trials or evidence? Where were their concerns for small government when the Bush administration decided that wiretapping and reading emails without warrants were a-okay?
Why are they riled up about a health insurance reform plan nearly identical to the one Republicans put out in 1993? Nearly identical to the one Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney signed in Massachusetts? How did it go from being the Republican alternative to the Clinton overhaul to being OMG SOCIALISM!!!
Here's the lyrics I posted, with a direct quote about the meaning of the song: ""In that particular song a guy comes back to his town and recognizes nothing and is recognized by nothing," Springsteen told The New York Times' A. O. Scott. "The singer in 'Long Walk Home,' that's his experience. His world has changed. The things that he thought he knew, the people who he thought he knew, whose ideals he had something in common with, are like strangers. The world that he knew feels totally alien. I think that's what's happened in this country in the past six years.""
Especially this part: "You know that flag flying over the courthouse Means certain things are set in stone Who we are, what we'll do and what we won't"
For the flag, or for any of the other symbols of our country to mean anything, we have to live up to the ideals we talk about. If we want people to respect us and treat us as the good guys, the first step is to BE the good guys.
Of the "Big-Brother"-ey things that Obama's done, I haven't heard the Tea Parties protesting about him continuing the Bush administration's use of Gitmo, where hundreds of people have been held for years, and almost no-one has had any evidence brought to give a reason to imprison them for the six or more years many of them have been held there. Or continued use of drone strikes in Pakistan. Missiles fired from R/C planes, at people who might be terrorists, or might be wedding parties, or any of the other gatherings of innocent civilians we've bombed. Continuing what Bush started.
Have they said anything about stuff like the idiotic proposal to strip American citizenship from people accused of terrorism. Not even convicted, just accused. Where are the Tea Partiers protesting against this violation of one of the founding values of American law, presumption of innocence?
What has the Obama administration actually DONE to make claims like "...if he's back for four more after this, im sure I will be dead for even saying so."?
The Tea Partiers don't speak for the whole country, or the whole people. Obama was elected 53% to 46%, about 7%. George W. Bush in 2004 got 50.7% vs 48.3%, about 2.4%. In 2000, Bush got 47.9% to 48.4%, -0.5%. As for concern with people who disagree, or not caring what people or the country think, don't get me started.
So where were the Tea Partiers during the whole Bush administration? How did a Republican health care plan become SOCIALISM in less than 20 years?
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Re: For Serious?
Date: 2010-05-22 03:54 am (UTC)If they're concerned about the Constitution, where were they during the Bush administration's "Free Speech Zones", the Drug War's illegal searches and seizures, the Bush administration's kidnapping, torture, lies, and holding people for years without trials or evidence? Where were their concerns for small government when the Bush administration decided that wiretapping and reading emails without warrants were a-okay?
Why are they riled up about a health insurance reform plan nearly identical to the one Republicans put out in 1993? Nearly identical to the one Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney signed in Massachusetts? How did it go from being the Republican alternative to the Clinton overhaul to being OMG SOCIALISM!!!
I read that article. How, exactly, was the health care reform bill a "constitutional crisis" as the one guy called it? Because the majority passed legislation? For a "grassroots" movement, the Tea Party sure has a lot of lobbyists and think tanks doing the organizing and funding.
Here's the lyrics I posted, with a direct quote about the meaning of the song: ""In that particular song a guy comes back to his town and recognizes nothing and is recognized by nothing," Springsteen told The New York Times' A. O. Scott. "The singer in 'Long Walk Home,' that's his experience. His world has changed. The things that he thought he knew, the people who he thought he knew, whose ideals he had something in common with, are like strangers. The world that he knew feels totally alien. I think that's what's happened in this country in the past six years.""
Especially this part:
"You know that flag flying over the courthouse
Means certain things are set in stone
Who we are, what we'll do and what we won't"
For the flag, or for any of the other symbols of our country to mean anything, we have to live up to the ideals we talk about. If we want people to respect us and treat us as the good guys, the first step is to BE the good guys.
Of the "Big-Brother"-ey things that Obama's done, I haven't heard the Tea Parties protesting about him continuing the Bush administration's use of Gitmo, where hundreds of people have been held for years, and almost no-one has had any evidence brought to give a reason to imprison them for the six or more years many of them have been held there. Or continued use of drone strikes in Pakistan. Missiles fired from R/C planes, at people who might be terrorists, or might be wedding parties, or any of the other gatherings of innocent civilians we've bombed. Continuing what Bush started.
Have they said anything about stuff like the idiotic proposal to strip American citizenship from people accused of terrorism. Not even convicted, just accused. Where are the Tea Partiers protesting against this violation of one of the founding values of American law, presumption of innocence?
What has the Obama administration actually DONE to make claims like "...if he's back for four more after this, im sure I will be dead for even saying so."?
The Tea Partiers don't speak for the whole country, or the whole people. Obama was elected 53% to 46%, about 7%. George W. Bush in 2004 got 50.7% vs 48.3%, about 2.4%. In 2000, Bush got 47.9% to 48.4%, -0.5%. As for concern with people who disagree, or not caring what people or the country think, don't get me started.
So where were the Tea Partiers during the whole Bush administration? How did a Republican health care plan become SOCIALISM in less than 20 years?